Zaknel 
Ezekiel 33:11
@Azure Fang
Artist upload only, ever since Derpi, has been what an artist must use to have nothing uploaded at all.
Artist upload only, ever since Derpi, has been what an artist must use to have nothing uploaded at all.
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Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 488
TrukkinDuck
Nopan is best pants
@Azure Fang
Ah yes, I’ve seen it already. A No Upload DNP would be very specific compared to what Artist Upload DNP is by base definition. If they really have to add that.
Ah yes, I’ve seen it already. A No Upload DNP would be very specific compared to what Artist Upload DNP is by base definition. If they really have to add that.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 487
TrukkinDuck
Nopan is best pants
I’m having a headache reading this but simply put, the DNPs created by Derpi is fair. No power to abuse and censor and if the artist goes away but forgot or wants to keep their artist only DNP then so be it. Twibooru already serves as an archive. (I’m assuming a user we know as Amity knows it’s rules). If somehow you really want it to be an archive of sorts then do extend it to like 3 years. I know artists who have dnped on Derpibooru but since left long ago and pretty much never heard of this booru here so supposedly some images are exclusive. But either way, Twibooru serves as that. We all only want better moderation, not more redundant dnps. If there’s something you should add, are more Global Filters. The others have it already, why do we still have sfw and everything that will make you drink bleach? There are so many tags to keep track of and add to our filters. Havimg more defaults gives us a more better idea without too much hassle.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 486
Azure Fang
Oh no, he's here?
@UrbanMysticDee
In terms of that rule, I’m conflicted.
On the one hand, it makes some sense. An artist comes to this site and registers an “Artist Upload Only” DNP, then proceeds to upload everywhere except here. That’s filing a “No Upload” without the stigma of filing a “No Upload” and constitutes abuse. There are also a few artists that have (had?) active “Artist Only” DNPs claiming they’d upload later, but either never did or stopped here; that’s unfair to this site as an Artist Only carries the assumption that the artist in question will be uploading here.
On the other hand, this kind of change should only be paired with a “No Upload” option, which is now missing from the DNP list. This raises a big middle finger to artists by trying to reduce their options. It smacks of an intimidation tactic. It also feels historically scummy considering some artists filed DNPs on Derpibooru and ported their galleries here during the schism, yet now we’re invalidating DNPs.
Rather than going full-pirate, which this move could be considered, I’m of the opinion that the 31 day should default should to full No Upload, but I’m an asshole of a different color.
In terms of that rule, I’m conflicted.
On the one hand, it makes some sense. An artist comes to this site and registers an “Artist Upload Only” DNP, then proceeds to upload everywhere except here. That’s filing a “No Upload” without the stigma of filing a “No Upload” and constitutes abuse. There are also a few artists that have (had?) active “Artist Only” DNPs claiming they’d upload later, but either never did or stopped here; that’s unfair to this site as an Artist Only carries the assumption that the artist in question will be uploading here.
On the other hand, this kind of change should only be paired with a “No Upload” option, which is now missing from the DNP list. This raises a big middle finger to artists by trying to reduce their options. It smacks of an intimidation tactic. It also feels historically scummy considering some artists filed DNPs on Derpibooru and ported their galleries here during the schism, yet now we’re invalidating DNPs.
Rather than going full-pirate, which this move could be considered, I’m of the opinion that the 31 day should default should to full No Upload, but I’m an asshole of a different color.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 485
UrbanMysticDee
Bae > Bay
Imma agree here, turning DNP into “after a month we’re posting it anyway” is a huge asshole move
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 484
Zaknel
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t they doing that now?
Ezekiel 33:11
Yunno it would be kinda funny if you made dnps expire after a period of time, long enough that they forget about it
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t they doing that now?
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 482
Barhandar 
@Exhumed Legume
And the bargain in question is patronizing and downright insulting. It’s how you end up having no community. Instead of the iron fist of Twi and Poner, “your art will be here whether you want it to be or not”, it’s goading around “yOuCaNdELaYiToNly and your art will end up here, whether you want to or not”.
Also known as “how to get people to ruin your reputation even further by waffling around and being stupid”.
@Cammera
And the bargain in question is patronizing and downright insulting. It’s how you end up having no community. Instead of the iron fist of Twi and Poner, “your art will be here whether you want it to be or not”, it’s goading around “yOuCaNdELaYiToNly and your art will end up here, whether you want to or not”.
Also known as “how to get people to ruin your reputation even further by waffling around and being stupid”.
@Cammera
Why do I need to pay an activity tribute for the graceful consesion of respecting my DNPs?
This.
P.S. You’re tired of respecting meaningless feelings of artists, I get it. But going out of your way to insult them and rub it in, like the new DNP ruleset does, makes y’all major assholes. And there are two boorus based entirely around flouting said feelings already, on top of TPA, Rome’s archive, and unknown number of independent backups. You accomplish nothing beneficial with this.
P.S. You’re tired of respecting meaningless feelings of artists, I get it. But going out of your way to insult them and rub it in, like the new DNP ruleset does, makes y’all major assholes. And there are two boorus based entirely around flouting said feelings already, on top of TPA, Rome’s archive, and unknown number of independent backups. You accomplish nothing beneficial with this.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 481
Exhumed Legume 
Weirdo
@php111
No, I get it.
It’s an expiration date, simple as.
Because artist upload only implies the artist intends to upload. Exclusive upload privileges are granted in good faith, under the assumption that the artist holds up their part of the implicit bargain.
If one party doesn’t hold up their end of a contract, the contract falls through.
At least that’s how I interpret this rule.
No, I get it.
It’s an expiration date, simple as.
Because artist upload only implies the artist intends to upload. Exclusive upload privileges are granted in good faith, under the assumption that the artist holds up their part of the implicit bargain.
If one party doesn’t hold up their end of a contract, the contract falls through.
At least that’s how I interpret this rule.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 480
php111
Unless Zizzy changed something this just adds the hfh tag to all of the artist’s images
that tag is filtered by all the site’s default filters, but if you are using a custom filter (regardless if you are logged in or not) it will bypass it, It’s actually something that’s been here since the beginning
"A R C H I V E S I T E"
Also:Hidden by Default: This DNP type will make pieces with exclusively with your artist tag hidden from the homepage, only available for search by logging in.What’s the difference with Derpi’s forced filters?
Unless Zizzy changed something this just adds the hfh tag to all of the artist’s images
that tag is filtered by all the site’s default filters, but if you are using a custom filter (regardless if you are logged in or not) it will bypass it, It’s actually something that’s been here since the beginning
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 479
_
What’s the difference with Derpi’s forced filters?
In my opinion that’s too much time, I like to see fresh content.
Also:
Hidden by Default: This DNP type will make pieces with exclusively with your artist tag hidden from the homepage, only available for search by logging in.
What’s the difference with Derpi’s forced filters?
Content Delay: This gives artists and creators a way to specify a delay in which their art or content may be uploaded. Up to 4 weeks for freely available art on public platforms, up to 3 years for art available on paid platforms.
In my opinion that’s too much time, I like to see fresh content.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 478
php111
the art as in an entity, as in “the car”, or “the house”, or “the naughty picture of Blue Fast”
And you are kinda missing the point, that being that the dnp does not allow for not posting an image,
after the 31 days are up you’ll post it or someone else will do it for you
"A R C H I V E S I T E"
@Exhumed Legume
Again, as I understand it, it applies individually per image
Again, as I understand it, it applies individually per image
the art being available elsewhere
the art as in an entity, as in “the car”, or “the house”, or “the naughty picture of Blue Fast”
And you are kinda missing the point, that being that the dnp does not allow for not posting an image,
after the 31 days are up you’ll post it or someone else will do it for you
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 477
Exhumed Legume
Weirdo
And like I said, the dnp type does not mention anything in regards to active or inactive users
if they do not upload within 31 days of the art being available elsewhere.
Seems to me that covers active vs inactive.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 476
php111
If I’m reading it right it applies individually per image, and so if there is an image that the artist doesn’t want on the site for whatever reason then “too fucking bad” even if the artist is otherwise active and posts other images here,
As @Barhandar mentioned in his post, It’s now effectively the same as the Content Delay DNP type
And like I said, the dnp type does not mention anything in regards to active or inactive users
"A R C H I V E S I T E"
Artists Upload Only / With Permission Only: This DNP gives an artist 31 days to upload any art that is otherwise available on any public platform by themselves. An artist may lose their DNP listing if they do not upload within 31 days of the art being available elsewhere.
If I’m reading it right it applies individually per image, and so if there is an image that the artist doesn’t want on the site for whatever reason then “too fucking bad” even if the artist is otherwise active and posts other images here,
As @Barhandar mentioned in his post, It’s now effectively the same as the Content Delay DNP type
And like I said, the dnp type does not mention anything in regards to active or inactive users
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 475
Cammera
Undesirable
@Exhumed Legume
look man when I post art I don’t want to be kindergardening some hundred boorus, I want to post it, be done, and move on with my life. Why do I need to pay an activity tribute for the graceful consesion of respecting my DNPs?
I’ll be active in a community when and as much as I damn please.
look man when I post art I don’t want to be kindergardening some hundred boorus, I want to post it, be done, and move on with my life. Why do I need to pay an activity tribute for the graceful consesion of respecting my DNPs?
I’ll be active in a community when and as much as I damn please.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 474
Exhumed Legume
Weirdo
you are also effectively screwing over the artists who actively use the site by taking away the tools to manage their art/tags
But they only risk losing those tools if they’re not active on PB (while being active on other boorus) so I don’t see how this isn’t a moot point?
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 473
php111
Post by @Luzion
Is this not the case anymore? and if so what exactly is the goal of Ponybooru? and why has it suddenly changed?
The change to the DNP policy directly undermines your stated goal, and also fails as a compromise,
“Post your art in 30 days or else…” is not a compromise, as people rightfully pointed out to you the last time you did this, back when the site first launched, and it’s not exactly filling me with confidence to see you repeat the same mistakes you made back then
Also: minor side note, I thought the dnp info was getting moved to it’s own dedicated page
@Sapphie
Unless I misread something, the new dnp rules do not in any way differentiate between artists who do or do not use the site,
so to that end you are also effectively screwing over the artists who actively use the site by taking away the tools to manage their art/tags
"A R C H I V E S I T E"
@Barhandar
@Barhandar
+1 to basically all of this
I do kinda like the idea behind the hfh tag tho, even if it does somewhat fail in execution
@ZizzyDizzyMC
I was under the impression that the goal of Ponybooru was to serve as a direct replacement for Derpibooru, and not to try and compete with the other dedicated Archive-Boorus of which there are no less then three.
meanwhile the only other competitor to Derpi is Manebooru and well…yeah, I’m sure I dont need to point out why that’s a problem
From the site’s FAQ section
@Barhandar
+1 to basically all of this
I do kinda like the idea behind the hfh tag tho, even if it does somewhat fail in execution
@ZizzyDizzyMC
I was under the impression that the goal of Ponybooru was to serve as a direct replacement for Derpibooru, and not to try and compete with the other dedicated Archive-Boorus of which there are no less then three.
meanwhile the only other competitor to Derpi is Manebooru and well…yeah, I’m sure I dont need to point out why that’s a problem
From the site’s FAQ section
>What is Ponybooru?
Ponybooru aims to be a straight Derpibooru replacement, but with no content banned for political or personal agendas. If its legal in the US and pony related, we’ll host it! In other words: DNPs are respected, but outside of that, almost anything that’s pony and legal can be uploaded…
Post by @Luzion
Rule 1: Edit protection and exceptions to DNP for those that are purging content outright would be nice, but we already know you’re not going to even pretend to be an archive like Derpi tried, so w/e. At least you aren’t pretending.We are, as it stands, not an archive, but I understand your frustration.
Is this not the case anymore? and if so what exactly is the goal of Ponybooru? and why has it suddenly changed?
The change to the DNP policy directly undermines your stated goal, and also fails as a compromise,
“Post your art in 30 days or else…” is not a compromise, as people rightfully pointed out to you the last time you did this, back when the site first launched, and it’s not exactly filling me with confidence to see you repeat the same mistakes you made back then
Also: minor side note, I thought the dnp info was getting moved to it’s own dedicated page
@Sapphie
We’re kinda done pandering to the “THIS SITE RAYCIST, MY ART CAN’T BE POSTED THERE” crowd. DNPs are meant as something for artists that actively use the site.
Unless I misread something, the new dnp rules do not in any way differentiate between artists who do or do not use the site,
so to that end you are also effectively screwing over the artists who actively use the site by taking away the tools to manage their art/tags
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 471
Anonymous #28C9
These changes seem very poorly thought through. Others have made valid points before me, so I won’t rehash them. But really the old rules seemed fine. The comment lock is pure stupidity and giving in to the worst voices among posters. I truly think the changes are unnecessary and that they should be reversed.
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 470
Hattsy
ponk
make the dnp so that all artists are required to draw my wife pinkie pie and put the dnp on all artists on the site please thank you
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 469
Barhandar
The basic idea is that “artist upload only” is only available so that artists can post stuff themselves.
They already can do that with uploader credit change/absence of DNP plus postybirb.
We’re kinda done pandering to the “THIS SITE RAYCIST, MY ART CAN’T BE POSTED THERE” crowd.
Which is how much existent, precisely?
DNPs are meant as something for artists that actively use the site.
Then they’re not DNPs at all. Do Not Post means do not fucking post.
And again, the niche of a real archive is already taken. All you’re doing with this is further damaging your already low reputation - and for a double whopper, you’re doing it with both artists and bronies.
@Zaknel
~compromises~
And again, the niche of a real archive is already taken. All you’re doing with this is further damaging your already low reputation - and for a double whopper, you’re doing it with both artists and bronies.
@Zaknel
~compromises~
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 468
Zaknel
Ezekiel 33:11
“Your DNP is only valid if you are a member of thid community.”
Why even have it then?
Why even have it then?
Site and Policy » Ponybooru Moderation Feedback » Post 467
Anonymous #B8DB
@Sapphie
I was under the impression it was to please the “artist’s rights” crowd who do use the site, however sporadic they may, rather than twitter screechers.
I was under the impression it was to please the “artist’s rights” crowd who do use the site, however sporadic they may, rather than twitter screechers.
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