Ponybooru's General Cartoon and Western Animation Thread

So I finally got around to watching the first season of Hazbin Hotel (I had watched the pilot when it came out but didn’t know the show actually got picked up until very recently.

I think it has numerous flaws (enough to write an entire essay on, and other people have), but I found it entertaining and recognize the effort and creativity put into it. And also the songs are good.

@Twiface
Hell is full of gay drug-addicted sluts. The jokes right themselves, but they’re the ones this show is too scared to do.

@Cyborg_pony
Yes. I just think there’s a lot of wasted potential there.

@Twiface
And a lot of stupid plot points, such as Charlie’s, A female character with a male name. How very bold of you. Girlfriend, So edgy is an angel and doesn’t know how how to kill angels, which is the dumbest way possible.

The biggest problem is the MC didn’t do anything relevant to the plot or what she set out to. It just seems like a big waste of time with swearing and sex, Again, so edgy.

Plus the constant addition of new characters who either do very little or nothing at all to advance the plot.

That’s a very good point that I didn’t even think about. She’s a passive character who just reacts to events going on around her; the only thing she really did was to ask her dad for help, and the only things he really did were to set up a meeting (which he didn’t bother attending himself) and come to the final battle late.

Her one success was an expendable comic relief character who got into heaven by accident.

Plus, because there isn’t that much suffering in hell, no one has any compelling reason to leave besides the exterminations, which nobody was really that concerned about to begin with and the show proved that hell can fight back against, making it a moot point.

But the show can’t really allow her to succeed, because that would mean popular characters would have to leave, which reveals that the show’s true purpose is just to watch its side characters do “edgy” shit while Charlie continually fails. Thus, the real protagonist is Alastor, since he’s there to watch the other characters fuck up, just like the audience.

Also, here’s a clip of the show being self-aware:

@Twiface
I’ve noticed that in a lot of these cartoons, The ones where you’re just a whatever flavor of bigot at the time, the main character is very passive until the plot says “Do something” and than that’s it.

That clip pretty much showed why it’s a failure. The daddy issues is instantly resolved by her calling him and he helps. The bartender does her job better than she does. The lesbian angel is there just to be lesbians with the MC, The court scene was there for her to lecture angels, I saw that on the side. The angels are more evil than the demons, somehow.
It feels like a show just there for people to make porn of the characters and for people to desperately believe they’re edgy when they do everything they’re told. I said it on DB and got a lot of cope posts when I said this show is edgy, in the early 2000’s on Newgrounds.

There is no evil in hell. Most equate it to living in California which makes more sense. If the series continues I imagine whatever viewers it had will likely tune out as the “Fans” are too busy fapping to all the fanart to bother watching, which has happened to a lot of the “popular” new show before being memory-holed for the next.

Smiling Friends has been renewed for a third season.

Batman the cucked Crusader is out now. Guess who the main character is.

@Cyborg_pony
They pulled a He-Man? Dang… who is it, Ching Chong Harley or Brack Barb?

@Seiken
Brown-fanced Barbara Gordan and her hulk “female” companion who solves cases before the literal detective. Harley is also gay and the Penguin is Stephone Sterling.

The 2003 Duck Dodgers cartoon was pretty good. The first two seasons are strongly written and have interesting world building. The third season is weaker, and backslides on some of the character arcs, but it doesn’t bring down the show as a whole.

@ANoobis
That show was really, really good.

I find it odd I noticed a trend in animation.

Western young lesbian couple: Awesome, heckin cute and valid.

Japanese young lesbian couple: Gross, irredeemable and should be forbidden.

Why do they hate the thing they all cheer for when it’s done by western studios(that 9/10 contain perverts) hate it when it’s anime? They are very must against the word “Loli” despite the characters they like being “Loli” Usually going on about the characters being gay or lamenting they weren’t gay or gay enough.
I suppose instead of saying yuri loli, you can just say They love shows with underage girls French-kissing. I suppose that will make them happy?

@Cyborg_pony
>9/10 contain outright perverts
I’d say 8/10 at the highest when it comes to creepy perverts. But yeah, there’s hypocrisy for sure regarding Japanese and other non-western content on that.

@Anonymous #3DCF
Likely due to political stupidity. Since the Western creator; pervert and all likely share the same political learning as the fans that make mountains of porn of said characters within and justify it by saying the creators endorse it. Much like Luz being “bisexual” yet only has goo-goo eyes for one character, not like it would matter as most males in the show are either evil or more feminine then the women.

With Japan; Likely not, and are usually more forward in the obvious nature and usually play it up for laughs. Such as a lot of them being reviled over Kanna and Riko as Riko will just have spontaneous orgasms over the dragon girls. Had One of their favorites like Amity do that over Luz- They would bend themselves into a pretzel to Justify it.

Steven Universe, pretty much Ground Zero for this; the creators Very left leaning outright said Fusions were a metaphor for sexual acts. Garnet being the most looked at as the two unfused character are always all over each other. One was seen as akin to rape, one was Steven and Connie, Minors at the time, and There was also Steven “fusing” with his dad. Seeing as SU was were a lot of modern CN creators, a lot being caught as for the foremention creepiness, it is no surprise there was a lot of weird crap in that show, along with Rebecca Sugar being a friends with Shmorky an actual pedophile among other things, and almost got allowed to work on that show and ijnect his fetishes into it like many others and likely gotten his own CN cartoon, and would have just been another ousted creator, but it happened a lot sooner. It is no wonder some of them came out to say the show was a blight on cartoons given it started the “Just hug it out” mentality along with fostering the most toxic fanbase that festered into many others.

There has only been a handful of Japanese creators being shown to be creeps, yet none that I’ve seen had had any lolicon content. Some have even lied about lolicon creators being in jail, either they were for different reasons or just straight up fabricated.